Archive for March, 2008

TGITM #2 > Correction

March 29, 2008

“He who heeds discipline shows the way to life, but whoever ignores correction leads others astray” (Proverbs 10:17 – NIV).

Let’s just say it…we all have authority issues. We hate being told we are wrong or what to do. I know I do. But being able to admit you are wrong and fixing the issues is a sign of real spiritual maturity. We sometimes need to be reminded that we are called to submit to Christ, our ruling authorities, our bosses and our pastors. Again, I know I do. In fact, the Christian life is a life of submission from beginning to end.

Why is correction so important? Because, “…whoever ignores correction leads others astray.”

I have found throughout my time in ministry that discipline and correction are necessary to ensure your growth in Christ, the growth of the people you lead and the vision of the Church. I think this is a “necessary evil” of being a pastor. I know some will disagree with that term and embrace the opportunity to confront people in sin, but I don’t. I wish there where no such thing as sin (thanks Adam and Eve). However, sin is a reality, and while it is, correction is going to be needed.

What should a pastor do when someone is not submitting to the correction/direction of the church and ministry (something they are called to do – Hebrew 13:17)? Here are some things to consider:

  1. Pray. “The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective,” James 5:16. Do I have to explain to you the importance of prayer? OK…
  2. Approach the situation in love (Ephesians 4:15). Everything we do and say should edify and encourage the body. If what you are going to say doesn’t, you probably shouldn’t say it.
  3. Be clear. Don’t “tip-toe” around any issues. Get it out there so the situation can be addressed.
  4. Do not major on the minors. Many times “correction-type” conversations stem from personal preferences and “convictions” about the way church should be done. Don’t get caught up in defending what you personally believe. Stick to concrete things the Bible addresses. If you don’t, you will find yourself going in circles. If you disagree on personal preferences/convictions, maybe it’s time to part company.
  5. Agree on something. Even if you agree to disagree, that is good. If you don’t, you will, again, find yourself going in circles.
  6. Talk long, talk wrong (source: Pastor David). Try to keep all conversations under 30 minutes. In my experience, conversations that last longer are never productive.
  7. Do not be afraid to “clean house”…nicely (see #2). This should be the exception, not the rule. However, there are A LOT of churches out there that teach/believe different things. There is no sense in anyone being unhappy at any church. It is not productive, edifying or encouraging for the church or the people involved. In addition, I have found that unhappy people like to find other unhappy people who agree with them. This is dissension and only makes matters worse. It is unhealthy for any church…I don’t care who you are.
  8. Make the decision clear. Whatever the outcome of the conversation, make sure everyone involved knows it. There is nothing worse than walking away from a conversation with no clear “now what.”

It should be noted that this is a personal list for me. It is mostly a reminder on how I should handle correction. I learned most of this stuff the hard way…through experience. Am I always successful in doing everything on the list? NO. If I was, I wouldn’t be human. However, I do strive to honor Christ in all my communication.

What would you add to the list?

Easter 2008 recap…

March 24, 2008

real quick…

The worship was awesome…thank you Justin, Mel, Melissa, Amy, Juliana, Dave #1, Eric, Dave #2, Nash.

  • Juliana did an awesome job on Amy Winehouse’s song “Rehab“…went great with the series and teaching!
  • My wife Melissa did THE BEST job on her solo at the traditional service!
  • Other great solo performances at the traditional services were put in by my father-in-law, Tom.
  • Justin did a great job covering U2′s “Until the End of the World.” If you closed your eyes, it was Bono. It should be noted that Justin is much pretty than Bono…

Pastor David preached one of his best Christ-centric messages. Christ was made known to many! Here are some notable highlights:

  • In order to do relationships right, you must have a relationship with Christ.
  • Stop showing God your “but” and say “yes” to a relationship with Him today!
  • Don’t deny God’s dream for your life. Abe to Sarah = grab the Marvin Gaye and get in the tent…we have dreams to make happen (specifically, God’s dream).

Some notable #’s:

  • ??? = Decisions for Christ (# unknown right now…it is Monday and the office is closed!!!!!!)
  • 37 = the age of Judy, the Easter Elephant. She weighed about 7900 lbs.
  • 70 = the # of people baptized at the sunrise beach baptism
  • 7485 = the number of people who attended 1 of CBG’s 8 services!

All-in-all it was a great weekend!

UPDATE: Me and Judy hanging…

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Spiritual Maturity…

March 24, 2008

Mark Beeson, (I saw it on Tim Stevens site actually) just posted a little something on mature/immature believers.  It is a must read.  It really got me thinking.  I believe that Church by the Glades is on the edge creatively and is doing everything within our power to reach the lost of South Florida.  Because of this, we have A LOT of new believers roaming our halls. 

Occasionally, we have flaming arrows thrown at us by, what I would call, “the super-spiritual.”  They look at some of our folks who are in their spiritual infancy and accuse us of not discipling these people, teaching a “soft” gospel (whatever that means), not teaching repentance, etc…It seems to me that these spiritual elitists have forgotten that they were new believers walking around in spiritual diapers at one point too.  I think they have also forgotten that ministry is messy and takes time.  You don’t go from spiritually dead to spiritually mature over night.  It is a process.  In Paul’s words, it’s a race requiring discipline, training and endurance among other things.  In my opinion, we are in the process of teaching these baby Christians what it means to be a follower of Christ.  They are immature now.  But, through the power of Jesus, they won’t stay that way! 

Final thought: The sad part is that many of these “super spiritual” elitists have never come to hear/experience what we teach to make the accusations they do.  I think they have stereotyped us based on what is out there and what they believe about those other ministry’s…that is sad…If they took the time to check us out, I think they would find that although our methods are different, our goal is the same-connecting people with Christ.

I think I would perfer a church full of immature believers who are teachable and have a hunger for Christ rather than a church full of “mature” believing na-sayers…again, just my opinion…

Thanks for the post Mark and Tim!

PETA: Not Happy with CBG…

March 20, 2008

OK…the cat has been officially let out of the bad. Unfortunately, it was not our doing. PETA has picked-up the news release that CBG will have an elephant (Judy) on the property this Easter Weekend.

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Judy will highlight part of the topic Pastor David will be discussing in the big room–Denial. More specifically, “denying the elephant in the room” when it comes to your relationships. In a very real sense, the teaching time will start as you drive on the campus.

Judy will be on the front lawn as people drive on the property. She will not be doing tricks or giving people rides. She will simply be hanging out with us. Around the area where so will be hanging out will be signs that read things like, “I don’t see any elephant!”, “What elephant?”, “No elefante aqui!”.

With all the hub bub, Pastor David is working hard at ensuring the fact that people will leave CBG with Jesus on their mind and not the elephant. Pray for the staff and Pastor David as he uses an elephant to communicate the life-changing message of Jesus Christ!

For more information about the situation, read CBG’s response to PETA located on the CBG website.

A Proper Response…

March 20, 2008

Here at Church by the Glades, we are known for doing some interesting things to engage people. Recently, we have given away an iPhone, iTunes gift cards, Hannah Montana Tickets and Nintendo Wiis. All the of these give-a-ways had a specific purpose and related to the teaching series we were in some how (example: we gave away the iPhone and iTunes gift cards during our series “i: Living in a Self-Absorbed World”). As Pastor David always says, we practice controlled creativity around here.

Right now, we are doing something pretty creative for our Easter Weekend service. It is something that has probably already been done before I’m sure. We think it is something that is news worthy enough that we put out a news release about it. When we did, we knew not everyone would be excited about it. The story has been picked-up by a bunch of new agencies. We are excited about that.

All this to say, we have gotten mixed feedback about our current creative exploit. Some good, some not so good. We like both. It keeps up honest! I hope to have some interesting quotes from people who don’t agree with what we are doing soon. Some of them are classic. Until then, here is an email I received from a Catholic brother (the story was picked up by a Catholic blogger) of mine who probably doesn’t agree with what we are doing, but choose to “build up” instead of to “tear down” (1 Corinthians 8:1; Ephesians 4:15, 29).

Hi Fred… greetings from Maryland. I saw and appreciate your comment. I just want to say that Dawn Eden is a young lady who speaks on issues of chastity and she has a blog where she posts almost daily. She must have picked up on the press release. I am Catholic and I read these Catholic blogs on occasion.

In this holy week preceding our celebration of Jesus’ resurrection, know that there are many Catholics who have a great faith and who strive to have that relationship with Christ. Often times we are criticized for our liturgical practices…many cannot see the value in the Catholic liturgy. In a sense, we approach the liturgy with respect like the Jewish practice of temple sacrifice, but with our sacrifice being the remembering of Jesus’ death and resurrection for our salvation. So the idea of adding additional elements to our Sunday liturgy does meet with much reaction.

The common ground of our belief in the saving act of Jesus’ death and resurrection is one that I will celebrate and remember with all followers of Jesus.

I pray you and your community have a very blessed and holy week and Easter.

I think God was honored by this guys response. Although we don’t agree on the methods (and theologically I am guessing), this emailer wasn’t negative, critical or trying to tear us down. Instead, he found “common ground” to celebrate! Some people need to take a lesson from this guy!!!

My response:

Hi _____!

I appreciate the email. I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said. The focus of any church, in my opinion, should be Jesus and His Word. That is something we focus on here at Church by the Glades. However, we do have some methods of getting the Word out to people that some don’t agree with. We do value being creative, but we never allow our creativity to cloud the purpose behind it–to share Jesus with the world.

I also appreciate the way you responded. Too many people (specifically Christians) out there like to bash us for our approach. While we respect their opinions, traditions, methods, values, etc…we don’t believe there is only one way to approach church and sharing Jesus. Instead of encouraging us, they desire to speak negatively and tear us down. It is unfortunate in the sense that we are all trying to do the same thing–encourage people to place their faith in Jesus.

Until we are convinced that what we do does not honor God (as some have said), we will continue to use our creativity to reach people that other churches have been unable to in our area and around the world.

With that said, I will join you in celebrating our common ground–Jesus and His Resurrection. Have a Happy Easter!

I am interested to know what you think. Leave a comment if you would like!

Getting Ready for Easter…

March 19, 2008

For the 3 of you who subscribe to this blog, I figured I would “let the cat out of the bag” about what cool things are going on at Church by the Glades this weekend.

  1. We have 8 services scheduled.  They start Friday @ 6pm…
  2. There will be a live, breathing animal hanging out on the property…I can’t tell you what yet…it is going to be fun though!
  3. Pastor Justin has a great worship set planned.  Not only will my wife, Melissa,be part and Mel Washington are going to be in the mix too.
  4. There are going to be 2 special songs that will go with the theme of the series “Relationship Rehab.”  One was recently on the Billboard Top 40 for some time.  The other is by the band U2.
  5. Pastor David’s message is going to lay the foundation for the whole series.  Namely, until you get your relationship with Jesus Christ right/settled, all other relationships will be toxic and not all they could be.  He has some great points lined up!

Make sure you are there!  In fact, bring a friend or two!!!

TGITM #1 > Family is Important

March 19, 2008

About 1 month ago, my family and I went through a difficult situation.  My sister and her husband lost their baby 6 months into the pregnancy.  Because she was so far along, she had to deliver the baby, name him and have a funeral.  It was a difficult time for all of us.  I remember telling numerous people that no one should ever have to go through something like that EVER.  After talking with different people, I was surprised to hear that this kind of stuff happens more often than I thought.  My heart goes out to any parent who has gone through something like.

Romans 8:28 says that all things work together for the GOOD of those who love God and are called according to HIS purpose.  That describes me, so something good must come from it.  But what good could come from such a tragic situation?

The funeral took place on a Tuesday morning with only my immediate family there (my parents, brother, sister, her husband and my wife).  It was then God impressed upon me what I needed to learn from this experience-the importance of family.  As we sat together and mourned over the loss of a life we barely knew, all I could think of was the number of times I have taken my family for granted.  It is unfortunate that it took such a tragic event to remind me of this, but that is how God sometimes works.

I don’t know how God used this difficult time “for the good” of the rest of my family, but for me it was clear.  In the end, our time together on this earth is short, and your family is one of the only things you have.

Thank you Matthew Ryan Fogle for your brief, but impactful life.

I know…it has been awhile…

March 13, 2008

I have been working on a series of posts that I am going to entitle “Things God is Teaching Me.” I have about 5 different topics written down. My hope is that it will help me process through the life lessons and, maybe…just maybe, encourage you. We shall see. I hope to have the first post up by this weekend.

In the meantime, here is a picture of our student pastor, Matt Boone, that you may not have ever seen…enjoy!!!!

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